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Do you have to buy a new tonic (+flux cartridge) every time it is used, or do you keep the tonic and just add new flux charges as with other artifacts?

Thanks!

God question! So far we have gone with the latter.

That's what I was doing too, but I noticed the Mageintist from Book 1 had two tonics, so made me reconsider.

Thought I'd double check with everyone here!

A tonic is more than a simple Flux cartridge. As the description reads: "[it] uses special organic Flux cartridges, with secret additives.", so attempting to inject pure organic Flux instead of a Tonic would certainly yield very unfortunate results!

To get new Tonics, a Player will have to buy them at a properly stocked Magientist shop... or acquire them illegally, with all the risks that implies!

So to be clear, Tonics are one use items?

If you fail the usage roll, do you need to buy a new tonic or just replace the flux cartridge? ... it just mentions that the cartridge (of Flux?) is spoiled.

Oh dear, that's going to upset somebody.

Gully a écrit :So to be clear, Tonics are one use items?

Basically, yes. Technically, the syringe can be refilled, but it requires a dose of the special Flux-based mixture.

Gully a écrit :If you fail the usage roll, do you need to buy a new tonic or just replace the flux cartridge? ... it just mentions that the cartridge (of Flux?) is spoiled.

The dose of special Flux is wasted, which means you must find a new cartridge of Tonic to replace the lost one.

Am I being clear?

tamsyn a écrit :Oh dear, that's going to upset somebody.

An attempt at organic Flux-based treatment, heh?

He thought he could use flux cartridges to 'refresh' the tonic and I let him so far. Maybe in the future a cost for a bag of 'tonic ingredients' that can be combined with a cartridge?

Well, as it is mentioned in the text, the additives are "secret", so you'd have to see a full-fledged Magientist to get a true Tonic; it's probably about much more than just mixing a few herbs with organic Flux!

Still, a Magientst PC might know about the nature of these additives and brew their own vials of Tonic, but I would personally rule that such a Character must be a trained Vitalist, with at least 8 in the Medicine Discipline of Magience.

Thanks Clovis, your helping a lot ... one last question:

It seems as described the tonic comes with the organic Flux preinstalled ... is there need to buy the Flux separate, or does the price of the tonic include the Flux?